Beer of Protection
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rottemark
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28 Dec 2017, 13:54

Yesterday I played a game where another warlock (a third party) wanted to use Beer of Protection to keep me from killing a warlock. Is this possible? I insisted that the card only can be used to protect yourself, even though it says that it can be played at any time, but there's really not any support for my interpretation in the rules or the FAQ. I imagine that this isn't relevant in most games, but it could actually be a strategically sound action if the bounty for killing someone is high enough, and you want to collect it yourself.
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29 Dec 2017, 01:09

The answer to this conundrum, I think, lies in the rules presented in the magnificent Rules of Play. Beer of Protection is a potion, and the description of potions is "These cards give you some kind of bonus like extra cards, mana, or health. (Rest is nonsense for this case, according to my intuition, and too long to write down)". 

It specifies that the effect of the played potion affects the Warlock who played it. My interpretation of this is that is should be a direct bonus or effect; as in negating damage or draw cards, not an indirect bonus; as in having the possability to gain a bounty from a kill later on, becase the direct effect was received by another Warlock.  Then Beer of Protection would not give You, as the Warlock who played it, any bonus or effect, which the rules says it should do. Thus, Beer of Protection can only be played on oneself.

Thoughts from a humble servant.
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03 Jan 2018, 01:59

(29 Dec 2017, 01:09)Drulen Wrote: The answer to this conundrum, I think, lies in the rules presented in the magnificent Rules of Play. Beer of Protection is a potion, and the description of potions is "These cards give you some kind of bonus like extra cards, mana, or health. (Rest is nonsense for this case, according to my intuition, and too long to write down)". 

It specifies that the effect of the played potion affects the Warlock who played it. My interpretation of this is that is should be a direct bonus or effect; as in negating damage or draw cards, not an indirect bonus; as in having the possability to gain a bounty from a kill later on, becase the direct effect was received by another Warlock.  Then Beer of Protection would not give You, as the Warlock who played it, any bonus or effect, which the rules says it should do. Thus, Beer of Protection can only be played on oneself.

Thoughts from a humble servant.

Woaa! That's some advanced scroll diving! As the creator of this game I'm very impressed:) and must say that I haven't thought about this! I'm usually in favor of not restricting players from doing cool things so I think that the Rules of Play maybe shouldn't be read that strictly in this case. Thank you very much for your insight!

The creators will discuss how this will be treated in coming tournaments! Until then, I personally think that it's maybe a bit weird to be able to throw a potion to someone. As Drulen said, the drinker of the potion should be the one getting damage negated (logic way for a potion to work) and you can't give cards away (not specified in the rules though.. but I really don't think you should be able to do that). The play is cool though, so maybe we could make it an option on the card.
(This post was last modified: 03 Jan 2018, 02:09 by björn.)
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03 Jan 2018, 22:11

Thanks a lot for your replies! I will definitely try to play a few rounds with this modification to see if it brings any joy Smile
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